1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:06,200 [Music] [ 2 00:00:06,210 --> 00:00:13,920 Music] 3 00:00:20,110 --> 00:00:17,950 Hi, I'm Dr. Marta Pérez Davis, 4 00:00:23,650 --> 00:00:20,120 Director of the 5 00:00:26,020 --> 00:00:23,660 NASA Glenn Research Center, Cover Up, Ohio. Today we're going to 6 00:00:27,850 --> 00:00:26,030 talk about the Artemis program, but before we 7 00:00:29,859 --> 00:00:27,860 start talking about the Artemis program, 8 00:00:32,529 --> 00:00:29,869 I want to tell you where we are, 9 00:00:35,979 --> 00:00:32,539 we're in the chamber. reverberant which is 10 00:00:38,979 --> 00:00:35,989 the most powerful in the world at the station 11 00:00:41,470 --> 00:00:38,989 with brooke in sandusky here we carry 12 00:00:44,130 --> 00:00:41,480 out acoustic tests for the 13 00:00:46,889 --> 00:00:44,140 spacecraft and the components 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:46,899 what it simulates is the launch and 15 00:00:54,030 --> 00:00:50,530 we reached more or less 163 decibels which 16 00:00:57,420 --> 00:00:54,040 is equivalent to 20 rocket engines Planes at 17 00:01:01,290 --> 00:00:57,430 the same time with me are three 18 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:01,300 engineers from NASA Mr. Rafael 19 00:01:08,670 --> 00:01:04,720 García, a mechanical engineer from the 20 00:01:11,490 --> 00:01:08,680 Florida space station in Kennedy, 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:11,500 Dr. Dios Hernández Lugo, who 22 00:01:17,490 --> 00:01:14,770 works and works here at the 23 00:01:19,889 --> 00:01:17,500 Naza Glenn Research Center, and 24 00:01:23,450 --> 00:01:19,899 Mr. Vicente suárez mechanical engineer 25 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:23,460 who also works at the 26 00:01:29,550 --> 00:01:26,710 nclr race class research station how 27 00:01:31,710 --> 00:01:29,560 are you very well thank you well thank you for 28 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:31,720 being here with me this morning we are going to 29 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:34,479 talk about the program artemis god who 30 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:37,119 is artemis in the greek methodology 31 00:01:42,649 --> 00:01:39,460 alchemist is the goddess of the moon and It's 32 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:45,529 Rafael, how are you? Thank you and 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:48,030 why, because tennis before the minister 34 00:01:52,459 --> 00:01:50,850 because she's going to make the ship and the mission 35 00:01:56,660 --> 00:01:52,469 that will take the first woman to the 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:56,670 moon in 1224 and the rest of the hangover is 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:01:58,090 the man 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:02,250 vicente how are you very well thank you 39 00:02:07,550 --> 00:02:04,770 tell me tennis one that we are 40 00:02:09,740 --> 00:02:07,560 barracking one currently 41 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:09,750 tennis player one we are putting him in 42 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:11,250 different environmental conditions that he 43 00:02:17,060 --> 00:02:13,560 will be exposed during takeoff 44 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:17,070 and in orbit very well I have a few 45 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:20,550 questions so let's start with 46 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:26,310 at least of the energy systems 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:29,200 that we are investigating for the moon and 48 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:33,130 mars could you tell me what are the 49 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:36,640 requirements for the moon with the program 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:39,670 and the alchemist mission we are trying 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:42,370 to go to the moon take the first woman 52 00:02:49,860 --> 00:02:47,170 to give a and nacer clan is working 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:49,870 on different energy systems among 54 00:02:58,100 --> 00:02:54,610 them we have batteries and solar panels 55 00:03:02,100 --> 00:02:58,110 and nuclear systems such as 56 00:03:03,780 --> 00:03:02,110 radioisotopes and fission systems the 57 00:03:07,170 --> 00:03:03,790 reason why we are doing this 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:07,180 is because on the moon we are going to have 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:09,130 what is known as night lunar, which 60 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:12,250 is 14 days, is that we are in complete 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:13,930 darkness, not only that, but also the 62 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:17,290 temperatures drop a lot, therefore 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:19,000 NASA is working with 64 00:03:22,170 --> 00:03:20,290 different different systems 65 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:22,180 developing different systems to 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:25,870 form the energy architecture 67 00:03:30,420 --> 00:03:27,970 on the surface of the moon 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:30,430 and instruments can survive we can 69 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:33,250 power the habitat where 70 00:03:37,140 --> 00:03:35,440 our astronauts will be and also that 71 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:37,150 the instruments can survive the 72 00:03:42,450 --> 00:03:39,270 very low temperatures that we are going to have 73 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:42,460 during the night in a good year these 74 00:03:46,230 --> 00:03:44,320 technologies are very important not 75 00:03:48,690 --> 00:03:46,240 because what we want to do is go to the 76 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:48,700 luna and demonstrate the technologies that 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:50,950 we need to continue to love you so it 78 00:03:56,190 --> 00:03:52,690 is very important that we get 79 00:03:59,130 --> 00:03:56,200 accomplished in the missions on the moon before 80 00:04:02,790 --> 00:03:59,140 we leave to love you 81 00:04:05,490 --> 00:04:02,800 rafael in my understanding that you are 82 00:04:07,230 --> 00:04:05,500 here as a mechanical engineer 83 00:04:08,670 --> 00:04:07,240 in charge of some of the tests that 84 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:08,680 we are conducting, could you tell me more 85 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:10,060 about the tests that we are carrying out now, 86 00:04:17,370 --> 00:04:13,180 my position in the program, 87 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:17,380 I am the leader of all the testing of 88 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:19,600 all the tests of the spacecraft and 89 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:22,390 I travel in the spaceship where there are different 90 00:04:26,220 --> 00:04:24,250 places for that The reason I'm here in 91 00:04:28,770 --> 00:04:26,230 plumbers for the last three months 92 00:04:31,860 --> 00:04:28,780 because here we are with you conducting 93 00:04:33,780 --> 00:04:31,870 two major mental tests in vain 94 00:04:37,170 --> 00:04:33,790 because it's the first time we're going to 95 00:04:40,170 --> 00:04:37,180 have the ship exposed to the barometer 96 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:40,180 of the vacuum of space and the extreme 97 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:44,080 temperatures we're doing the 98 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:46,960 test of thermal balance in a vacuum 99 00:04:52,890 --> 00:04:50,200 to understand how the ship works, how 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:52,900 the different systems relate 101 00:04:59,100 --> 00:04:55,930 to each other and to understand how we can 102 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:00,719 control this test for the flight, we finished it 103 00:05:04,860 --> 00:05:02,999 two or three weeks ago and now we are 104 00:05:11,010 --> 00:05:08,520 doing the configuration to answer 105 00:05:17,310 --> 00:05:11,020 the electromagnetic 106 00:05:20,220 --> 00:05:17,320 that tells us how the team works 107 00:05:22,590 --> 00:05:20,230 among themselves as a team because 108 00:05:24,930 --> 00:05:22,600 how a system can affect another 109 00:05:28,050 --> 00:05:24,940 system to know how everything 110 00:05:31,380 --> 00:05:28,060 works in an integrated way then 111 00:05:35,580 --> 00:05:31,390 we are going to simulate all the radiation that the 112 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:35,590 ship is going to do exposed since it 113 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:37,410 is in the prat for the launch 114 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:39,970 around the moon until it enters 115 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,200 there we are going to expose the spacecraft to all these 116 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:48,630 electromagnetic radiation to see how the spacecraft 117 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:51,910 actions and that test is going to start in 118 00:06:00,679 --> 00:05:57,360 the next 24 hours Vicente is coming, a 119 00:06:01,969 --> 00:06:00,689 mechanical engineer, if you are Vicente, what have you 120 00:06:04,189 --> 00:06:01,979 been working on, what have you 121 00:06:06,589 --> 00:06:04,199 worked at home in terms of 122 00:06:10,010 --> 00:06:06,599 exploration systems, can you talk to him 123 00:06:10,010 --> 00:06:11,629 about that? 124 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:20,240 Spaceships or different loads that 125 00:06:24,559 --> 00:06:22,400 make space extremely 126 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:24,569 important for these tests because the 127 00:06:29,659 --> 00:06:27,449 objective of these tests is to simulate the 128 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:29,669 environmental condition that these artifacts 129 00:06:35,550 --> 00:06:31,810 will be exposed to 130 00:06:38,260 --> 00:06:35,560 during takeoff, both when they are uploaded into 131 00:06:42,430 --> 00:06:38,270 space and when they are in orbit 132 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:42,440 here at the center. From 133 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:45,710 NASA investigations we simulate different types of 134 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:48,290 tests, be it acoustic vibrations or 135 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:51,860 shock waves, electrical emissions, and 136 00:06:59,380 --> 00:06:56,210 the purpose is to try to see how 137 00:07:01,450 --> 00:06:59,390 the durability of these 138 00:07:03,730 --> 00:07:01,460 devices works during these tests, 139 00:07:06,340 --> 00:07:03,740 and more than anything, it is very important because 140 00:07:08,290 --> 00:07:06,350 if there is any kind of deficiency 141 00:07:10,530 --> 00:07:08,300 it is much better to fix them here on 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:10,540 earth than when they are in space they 143 00:07:15,190 --> 00:07:12,770 are vicente I know that you also 144 00:07:17,380 --> 00:07:15,200 worked with experiments for the 145 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:17,390 international space station 146 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:19,100 could you tell me what kind of experiments 147 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:22,160 are you working on for 148 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:25,210 experiments with llamas yes exactly 149 00:07:30,940 --> 00:07:28,960 as we all know microgravity 150 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:30,950 allows scientists 151 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:33,210 scientists to 152 00:07:39,020 --> 00:07:36,810 study flames without the effect of 153 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:39,030 gravity that is very important because it 154 00:07:45,499 --> 00:07:42,330 can help different designers and 155 00:07:48,110 --> 00:07:45,509 engineers develop new 156 00:07:50,450 --> 00:07:48,120 types of energy systems and power plants 157 00:07:55,879 --> 00:07:53,480 and in a more efficient way 158 00:07:58,700 --> 00:07:55,889 and more friendly to the environment, in addition 159 00:08:01,010 --> 00:07:58,710 to that, we have experiments where we 160 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:01,020 are studying the behavior of 161 00:08:05,719 --> 00:08:02,940 different materials when they are 162 00:08:07,370 --> 00:08:05,729 exposed to the intensity of fire. This 163 00:08:09,559 --> 00:08:07,380 is also very important because it 164 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:09,569 can help us to determine how to help 165 00:08:13,070 --> 00:08:11,130 astronauts in an 166 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:13,080 emergency at a fire when they 167 00:08:18,470 --> 00:08:15,930 are on the ship or are returning to 168 00:08:25,290 --> 00:08:22,830 god the first woman 169 00:08:27,510 --> 00:08:25,300 on the moon what does that mean for you 170 00:08:27,510 --> 00:08:30,559 as a woman but also as a nasa engineer 171 00:08:35,540 --> 00:08:33,170 since i was little growing up in puerto rico i 172 00:08:38,779 --> 00:08:35,550 was always aware of all the 173 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:38,789 different missions that I wanted to 174 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:41,490 watch them with the whole family on 175 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:43,409 TV, so since I was little I always 176 00:08:48,889 --> 00:08:45,350 had an interest in coming to work 177 00:08:52,129 --> 00:08:48,899 here at NASA. It wasn't until my doctorate 178 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:52,139 that I can start working 179 00:08:56,889 --> 00:08:54,810 with different technologies that 180 00:09:00,439 --> 00:08:56,899 NASA is working on and that brought me here to 181 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:00,449 Mazatlan. as an engineer in the 182 00:09:06,319 --> 00:09:03,600 battery area so that's where I started so 183 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:06,329 now I'm managing a group 184 00:09:11,420 --> 00:09:08,160 that is developing 185 00:09:15,319 --> 00:09:11,430 nuclear systems so for me this show 186 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:15,329 and the art show mimics being able to see the 187 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:17,910 first woman to get to the get to the 188 00:09:23,809 --> 00:09:20,810 luna is actually more than a dream to 189 00:09:26,090 --> 00:09:23,819 be able to work and be 190 00:09:27,860 --> 00:09:26,100 part of this program to be working 191 00:09:29,660 --> 00:09:27,870 on technologies that will help 192 00:09:33,379 --> 00:09:29,670 our astronauts, including women, 193 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:33,389 to be able to do the necessary science to 194 00:09:36,210 --> 00:09:35,279 be able to learn on the moon and then be able to 195 00:09:39,450 --> 00:09:36,220 take that 196 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:39,460 learning to love you yes if we look back 197 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:42,730 no for me apollo was that motivation to 198 00:09:47,580 --> 00:09:44,800 study engineering I 199 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:47,590 always remember wine the first 200 00:09:51,030 --> 00:09:48,690 steps on the moon 201 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:51,040 artemis it will be that for the next 202 00:09:56,580 --> 00:09:53,770 generation not to motivate and inspire this 203 00:09:59,220 --> 00:09:56,590 generation for science technology 204 00:10:02,340 --> 00:09:59,230 mathematics and engineering that so it 205 00:10:05,010 --> 00:10:02,350 's not just the developments in 206 00:10:07,380 --> 00:10:05,020 terms of how it helps technology 207 00:10:10,370 --> 00:10:07,390 but also what it does to inspire the 208 00:10:12,750 --> 00:10:10,380 youth and the next generations 209 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:12,760 all the technologies we develop 210 00:10:19,260 --> 00:10:15,430 to get to the moon to live on the 211 00:10:23,580 --> 00:10:19,270 moon to go to mars always get 212 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:23,590 that happen is a cycle they are not technologies 213 00:10:30,450 --> 00:10:26,770 that are used to improve life here on 214 00:10:32,430 --> 00:10:30,460 earth so who knows what which is which are 215 00:10:34,950 --> 00:10:32,440 the technologies 20 216 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:34,960 40 years from now that are the result of what 217 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:36,490 we are working on today 218 00:10:41,220 --> 00:10:38,670 is unique we are very lucky 219 00:10:44,780 --> 00:10:41,230 lucky to be working on this 220 00:10:51,070 --> 00:10:48,820 vicente i come back to you i 221 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:51,080 know you are working or have worked on 222 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:52,880 one of the technologies that is one of my 223 00:10:58,570 --> 00:10:55,790 favorites at the moment it is 224 00:11:01,150 --> 00:10:58,580 shape memory alloy could you tell me 225 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:01,160 how we are using this technology and what 226 00:11:06,250 --> 00:11:04,000 we can do make clear with that technology 227 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:06,260 currently here at the 228 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:09,710 research center that law 229 00:11:13,889 --> 00:11:11,889 of nasa 230 00:11:16,829 --> 00:11:13,899 we are using this type of technologies 231 00:11:18,889 --> 00:11:16,839 to develop and design new 232 00:11:21,930 --> 00:11:18,899 tires 233 00:11:23,699 --> 00:11:21,940 especially nickel and titanium 234 00:11:26,009 --> 00:11:23,709 these new high 235 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:26,019 performance tires are going to be used in 236 00:11:32,269 --> 00:11:28,880 future missions missions framed in the moon 237 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:32,279 the advantages of this new technology 238 00:11:38,689 --> 00:11:35,850 is that these tires mold to the 239 00:11:42,079 --> 00:11:38,699 ground where they are going to be treading, in addition 240 00:11:44,900 --> 00:11:42,089 to that they do not join as much as the 241 00:11:47,119 --> 00:11:44,910 rigid wheels that exist now that 242 00:11:49,429 --> 00:11:47,129 allows the robots to have 243 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:49,439 much more additional loads and I 244 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:51,569 believe It is very important that this 245 00:11:59,260 --> 00:11:55,350 new technology one of the advantages is 246 00:12:02,800 --> 00:11:59,270 that it absorbs a lot of 247 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:02,810 energy from impacts at 248 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:04,850 different speeds, especially at 249 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:07,760 moderate or high speeds. This is 250 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:09,890 very beneficial because now 251 00:12:14,530 --> 00:12:12,350 the transportation 252 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:14,540 for astronauts that 253 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:17,090 is currently available can be designed and developed. calculated that it will be much faster 254 00:12:22,930 --> 00:12:20,610 than the speeds of the mars robots 255 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:22,940 I know that we have a 256 00:12:29,110 --> 00:12:25,310 facility that we have here in massacre in 257 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:29,120 great ohio that we can simulate as the 258 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:32,510 movement of the wheels or the 259 00:12:36,730 --> 00:12:35,600 tires on the different surfaces and 260 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:36,740 obviously it What we do is that 261 00:12:41,890 --> 00:12:39,170 we simulate the surface of the moon or the 262 00:12:46,390 --> 00:12:41,900 surface of Mars and how the 263 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:46,400 performance of this technology is 264 00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:50,090 that material, as we do the tests 265 00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:51,720 there, 266 00:13:01,560 --> 00:12:59,940 Rafael, and we speak in general terms 267 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:01,570 that when we finish the tests 268 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:06,960 here, the Orion spacecraft to return to the 269 00:13:12,770 --> 00:13:09,590 kennedy space center in florida 270 00:13:14,210 --> 00:13:12,780 and there we will integrate it into the 271 00:13:16,580 --> 00:13:14,220 space launch system, which is the most 272 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:16,590 powerful in the world, could you tell me 273 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:18,930 what the steps are and what will 274 00:13:23,330 --> 00:13:21,690 happen when before integrating it into the 275 00:13:26,860 --> 00:13:23,340 rocket 276 00:13:30,140 --> 00:13:26,870 immediately that the ship returns to 277 00:13:32,110 --> 00:13:30,150 kennedy we are going to do a test to 278 00:13:35,450 --> 00:13:32,120 demonstrate that everything is still working we 279 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:35,460 are going to finish the installation of the 280 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:38,670 solar panels that are not in the ones 281 00:13:43,250 --> 00:13:41,130 we bring to bloomberg because we 282 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:43,260 could not use them here it is going to be integrated 283 00:13:52,970 --> 00:13:49,890 then we are going to deliver it to the team 284 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:52,980 that is in charge of integrating the ship to the 285 00:13:59,350 --> 00:13:57,090 rocket we have 10 3 10 tests after 286 00:14:03,110 --> 00:13:59,360 the integration that we are going to continue 287 00:14:06,140 --> 00:14:03,120 30 process that takes approximately 288 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:06,150 a year and then we will be ready 289 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:09,690 to launch files with it 290 00:14:15,890 --> 00:14:12,720 the first flight without people around 291 00:14:20,420 --> 00:14:15,900 of the moon to demonstrate how the ship 292 00:14:25,060 --> 00:14:20,430 works on that on that mission that 293 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:25,070 will ensure that the mission of we do 2 294 00:14:32,249 --> 00:14:28,580 with the cross to the person is not 295 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:34,199 now I would like to talk more 296 00:14:41,699 --> 00:14:38,049 generally about how they decided the field of 297 00:14:43,829 --> 00:14:41,709 engineering or science as you decided 298 00:14:45,059 --> 00:14:43,839 about your career we have numbers 299 00:14:47,869 --> 00:14:45,069 number of students who are 300 00:14:50,659 --> 00:14:47,879 interested in knowing more about 301 00:14:53,819 --> 00:14:50,669 careers in science engineering 302 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:53,829 mathematics and what better than you who 303 00:15:00,370 --> 00:14:56,169 have been working for a few years 304 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:00,380 at home and contributing to technology 305 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:02,620 that I want to start 306 00:15:10,199 --> 00:15:07,120 because I start from a young age I always 307 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:10,209 liked mathematics 308 00:15:15,389 --> 00:15:12,850 and to see if the truth was not a 309 00:15:18,689 --> 00:15:15,399 perfect student but always 310 00:15:20,549 --> 00:15:18,699 insistent and I liked mathematics a lot 311 00:15:23,669 --> 00:15:20,559 and when I went to 312 00:15:26,249 --> 00:15:23,679 university I had not defined what I wanted 313 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:26,259 to do but mathematics and physics 314 00:15:33,610 --> 00:15:28,730 always attracted me 315 00:15:37,150 --> 00:15:33,620 and I went on that path and decided to go to 316 00:15:43,930 --> 00:15:37,160 mechanical engineering because I like to 317 00:15:47,050 --> 00:15:43,940 take things and I like that for that reason 318 00:15:49,059 --> 00:15:47,060 I am a mechanical engineer in the 319 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:49,069 structure of dynamics career 320 00:15:55,660 --> 00:15:51,920 that, as she said, I break them and others, 321 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:55,670 the rules are Vicente where you went where 322 00:16:01,120 --> 00:15:58,170 where are you from 323 00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:01,130 my parents are ecuadorian i was born in 324 00:16:06,829 --> 00:16:03,600 brooklyn mayor but i grew up in guayaquil 325 00:16:10,610 --> 00:16:06,839 ecuador and i did my primary and secondary school 326 00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:10,620 in ecuador guayaquil and that's where 327 00:16:16,970 --> 00:16:12,959 stony brook new york university came from 328 00:16:19,069 --> 00:16:16,980 here in the usa and when when how did you 329 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:19,079 decide work like nash with nasa 330 00:16:25,790 --> 00:16:23,160 like me and i remember when i was 12 or 331 00:16:29,930 --> 00:16:25,800 13 years old there was a science 332 00:16:33,740 --> 00:16:29,940 fiction program and that's where my curiosity about 333 00:16:36,740 --> 00:16:33,750 space came from, fortunately when i 334 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:36,750 graduated from university 335 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:39,060 i went to work in a company 336 00:16:45,059 --> 00:16:41,410 related to space 337 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:45,069 and from there I wanted to work at NASA and 338 00:16:51,930 --> 00:16:49,120 I was fortunate that it is not an 339 00:16:54,569 --> 00:16:51,940 open position in the branch that I like 340 00:16:59,490 --> 00:16:54,579 and I have been working here at NASA for 20 years 341 00:17:02,439 --> 00:16:59,500 excellent thanks to Vicente Dio 342 00:17:05,049 --> 00:17:02,449 Dr. Hernández Lugo 343 00:17:07,449 --> 00:17:05,059 oh god we have something in common or both of us 344 00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:07,459 It is a Puerto Rico 345 00:17:13,929 --> 00:17:11,750 I was born in Ponce but 346 00:17:18,819 --> 00:17:13,939 I practically grew up in Adjuntas, a small 347 00:17:21,929 --> 00:17:18,829 town in the mountains of Puerto Rico. I 348 00:17:26,980 --> 00:17:21,939 studied Chemistry at the University of Puerto Rico, 349 00:17:29,409 --> 00:17:26,990 Colegio Mayagüez, and I was 350 00:17:31,029 --> 00:17:29,419 also fortunate as tourists that 351 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:31,039 nothing made me an offer. and i came to 352 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:32,850 work with nasa 353 00:17:38,750 --> 00:17:37,049 i started as a researcher and continued at the 354 00:17:42,169 --> 00:17:38,760 same time i was working i finished 355 00:17:45,409 --> 00:17:42,179 my masters with the university of toledo 356 00:17:47,450 --> 00:17:45,419 and my doctorate with the university here 357 00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:47,460 in cleveland ohio case western state 358 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:51,539 university it was given where you were born is where 359 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:54,750 you studied is how you got there Janasa, well, 360 00:18:01,070 --> 00:17:57,410 we have three things in common 361 00:18:01,940 --> 00:18:01,080 born and raised in Puerto Rico born in 362 00:18:05,899 --> 00:18:01,950 Ponce you 363 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:05,909 didn't know with address and this and I 364 00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:07,830 also studied at Juve I 365 00:18:12,020 --> 00:18:10,260 left is the University of Puerto the 366 00:18:13,940 --> 00:18:12,030 University of Puerto Rico but they study 367 00:18:17,390 --> 00:18:13,950 Río Piedra 368 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:17,400 this so I I became interested in the area 369 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:18,720 of ​​science around 370 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:20,010 fifth grade, 371 00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:23,010 my mother bought me a small microscope herself 372 00:18:27,860 --> 00:18:25,679 and from there my interest began to 373 00:18:29,210 --> 00:18:27,870 want to see the different samples I 374 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:29,220 carried this microscope wherever 375 00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:31,010 I went 376 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:34,400 family gatherings obviously 377 00:18:37,930 --> 00:18:36,320 adults always they were talking I 378 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:37,940 told my aunt who is a teacher to 379 00:18:41,380 --> 00:18:39,770 do math exercises for me 380 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:41,390 something good and that's how I entertained myself here 381 00:18:46,180 --> 00:18:43,250 bored but that's how I 382 00:18:48,940 --> 00:18:46,190 entertained myself this is from there my 383 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:48,950 interest in the area of ​​science was born it's not 384 00:18:54,570 --> 00:18:51,710 until I get to my PhD which 385 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:54,580 then I start working on 386 00:19:00,100 --> 00:18:57,770 technologies that have to do with nothing 387 00:19:03,700 --> 00:19:00,110 in particular but before I got to my 388 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:03,710 PhD my interest was science and 389 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:05,120 people always told me that I should 390 00:19:09,490 --> 00:19:07,610 study medicine everyone told me 391 00:19:12,090 --> 00:19:09,500 you should Being a doctor should study 392 00:19:15,340 --> 00:19:12,100 medicine, so I started in that at that 393 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:15,350 stage, that is, I entered pre-medical and entered 394 00:19:20,140 --> 00:19:18,050 my first year of medicine, but when I 395 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:20,150 entered my first year of medicine, I had 396 00:19:25,690 --> 00:19:23,330 the opportunity to visit the morgue and I 397 00:19:28,780 --> 00:19:25,700 said this is for me and this I am not going to 398 00:19:32,110 --> 00:19:28,790 be struggling with a body and no and 399 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:32,120 so from there I made my change as I 400 00:19:36,850 --> 00:19:34,610 liked mathematics very much chemistry was 401 00:19:38,590 --> 00:19:36,860 the closest thing 402 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:38,600 to mathematics I knew that biology 403 00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,850 I did not want to do that so I studied 404 00:19:44,830 --> 00:19:42,559 I did my bachelor's degree in 405 00:19:47,140 --> 00:19:44,840 industrial chemistry and my doctorate in 406 00:19:48,850 --> 00:19:47,150 physical chemistry, both from the University of Puerto 407 00:19:51,580 --> 00:19:48,860 Rico. When I'm doing my doctorate, 408 00:19:54,490 --> 00:19:51,590 NASA offers me a scholarship that is 409 00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:54,500 the Hub and Jenkins Fellowship and SF, which 410 00:19:59,740 --> 00:19:56,960 allowed me to come to NASA as a 411 00:20:01,660 --> 00:19:59,750 student. boarding school for three years 412 00:20:03,210 --> 00:20:01,670 because we met, that's when we 413 00:20:07,330 --> 00:20:03,220 met, that's when we met 414 00:20:11,380 --> 00:20:07,340 then and from there then I got a 415 00:20:15,159 --> 00:20:11,390 position as an intern pathway student 416 00:20:17,409 --> 00:20:15,169 and then then I got 417 00:20:20,049 --> 00:20:17,419 an offer and then I was able to start 418 00:20:24,220 --> 00:20:20,059 working here at NASA, so my 419 00:20:27,460 --> 00:20:24,230 process is a bit long, but I had the 420 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:27,470 opportunity to benefit from different 421 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:29,929 education programs that have us, to 422 00:20:35,289 --> 00:20:32,809 which I adjusted them all, 423 00:20:37,299 --> 00:20:35,299 and that was what allowed me to be 424 00:20:41,730 --> 00:20:37,309 here and work here at NASA. It has 425 00:20:45,340 --> 00:20:41,740 been my dream since I was little, there is something that 426 00:20:47,610 --> 00:20:45,350 students should note and the 427 00:20:49,890 --> 00:20:47,620 first is that 428 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:49,900 no matter what you decide, you always 429 00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:52,480 have the decision and the opportunity to 430 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:55,150 change why you chose which medicine is not 431 00:20:59,310 --> 00:20:57,250 and to tell you at a time that medicine 432 00:21:01,650 --> 00:20:59,320 is not For me, you ended up being a doctor, a doctor 433 00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:01,660 in the tract, 434 00:21:06,210 --> 00:21:04,630 instead, you ended up being a doctor, but 435 00:21:09,299 --> 00:21:06,220 that interest in science and 436 00:21:12,169 --> 00:21:09,309 mathematics 437 00:21:15,450 --> 00:21:12,179 is obviously reflected in your 438 00:21:16,830 --> 00:21:15,460 professional career and the fact that the 439 00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:16,840 opportunities you had to 440 00:21:23,279 --> 00:21:19,960 develop professionally where 441 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:23,289 you are right now it's very motivating 442 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:25,320 thank you rape 443 00:21:30,919 --> 00:21:29,370 son rafael we heard about vicente and dion his 444 00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:30,929 professional career could you 445 00:21:35,930 --> 00:21:32,460 tell us about yours i 446 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:35,940 am the youngest of the group i 447 00:21:43,490 --> 00:21:40,110 was born in a marked puerto rico i lived in 448 00:21:45,409 --> 00:21:43,500 san lorenzo and i graduated from 449 00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:45,419 mayagüez engineering college 450 00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:49,980 Mechanics that interested me in NASA in 1969 451 00:21:55,220 --> 00:21:52,830 when they were making the landing 452 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,230 I was in fifth or sixth grade and 453 00:21:59,960 --> 00:21:57,360 I decided that I wanted to work with NASA and 454 00:22:05,379 --> 00:21:59,970 everyone tells me you have to be an 455 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:05,389 engineer and dedicate yourself to mechanical 456 00:22:11,180 --> 00:22:08,490 structure and structure, which is what you 457 00:22:14,779 --> 00:22:11,190 need and then I started looking for 458 00:22:16,899 --> 00:22:14,789 the school I went to chrome I studied 459 00:22:21,169 --> 00:22:16,909 since they concluded that it 460 00:22:21,169 --> 00:22:22,680 focuses on science and mathematics of college degree 461 00:22:29,370 --> 00:22:27,240 and received the NASA offer in houston and 462 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:29,380 they were starting in the 463 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:33,370 shuttle and I started doing 464 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:36,310 what I am now doing 465 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:39,850 the verification tests and starting when the 466 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:42,370 second flight of the shuttle I was 467 00:22:49,980 --> 00:22:45,970 the one who carried the light, the tools and 468 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:52,830 and I remember moving in Tehran 469 00:22:58,590 --> 00:22:56,410 inside the ship putting the equipment and 470 00:23:01,980 --> 00:22:58,600 then I finished the shuttle 471 00:23:04,169 --> 00:23:01,990 in development and verification I was involved 472 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:04,179 in the space station for 13 years 473 00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:06,250 doing the same thing 474 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:08,880 testing each module 475 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:13,710 and integration and I got here on schedule, that 476 00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:16,170 is, my entire 40-year career 477 00:23:24,170 --> 00:23:18,600 because this year I turned 40 with nothing, 478 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:24,180 this has been testing the ships before 479 00:23:28,970 --> 00:23:26,910 that they fly so that to prove that the 480 00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:28,980 design requirements have been 481 00:23:36,740 --> 00:23:32,120 manifested it has been an 482 00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:36,750 incredible incredible incredible race I say 483 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:40,500 that they pay me for the fund in the portal 484 00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:43,110 to enjoy the situation that Rafael is coming 485 00:23:48,410 --> 00:23:44,880 and who would say not that when 486 00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:48,420 you started it was polo And now you are 487 00:23:55,250 --> 00:23:52,200 leaving the contribution that you are 488 00:23:59,150 --> 00:23:55,260 making to the future with Artemisa, 489 00:24:01,790 --> 00:23:59,160 my base is incredible. The people who 490 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:01,800 taught me to work were from the support of the 491 00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:04,410 dust program and now one of the things 492 00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:06,900 that I am trying to do is a 493 00:24:13,460 --> 00:24:10,860 group of engineers starting to pass on 494 00:24:14,899 --> 00:24:13,470 the knowledge that there are some for the 495 00:24:17,299 --> 00:24:14,909 new generation that is called 496 00:24:20,539 --> 00:24:17,309 the generation of the first exact tennis player 497 00:24:22,489 --> 00:24:20,549 that is coming excellent thank you thank you for 498 00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:22,499 all that your contributions to nasa 499 00:24:27,289 --> 00:24:24,840 but your contributions to the development 500 00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:27,299 of space technology is incredible 501 00:24:39,490 --> 00:24:35,450 I had the opportunity to start 502 00:24:44,020 --> 00:24:39,500 over would you change your trajectory 503 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:44,030 no no absolutely going to work at 504 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:45,610 nasa 505 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:49,130 as rafael said a blessing 506 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:53,410 would not change anything at all 507 00:24:59,220 --> 00:24:57,610 my experience that in the link has 508 00:25:02,760 --> 00:24:59,230 been that 509 00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:02,770 most if not all engineers 510 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:05,350 who work at nasa They feel very 511 00:25:10,790 --> 00:25:08,770 proud of what they do every day in 512 00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:10,800 a family environment 513 00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:13,740 in an environment of progress and in an 514 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:16,080 environment that is very important 515 00:25:22,670 --> 00:25:19,530 for learning and so no, I 516 00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:22,680 would not change that at all. What advice do you 517 00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:25,440 give today's students to someone 518 00:25:32,350 --> 00:25:27,830 who If you are interested in 519 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:32,360 the field of agronomy, what would be the 520 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:35,809 advice given because it has happened with 521 00:25:41,030 --> 00:25:38,450 friends and colleagues, 522 00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:41,040 you have to love what you are doing 523 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:44,220 if you can stay studying because 524 00:25:48,350 --> 00:25:46,410 what the sentence is, like you, you can 525 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:48,360 stay studying at three in the morning 526 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:51,090 tomorrow because you love what you are 527 00:25:57,410 --> 00:25:53,370 doing if I am not doing something you 528 00:26:01,490 --> 00:25:57,420 do not love you will not enjoy it and if you do not love 529 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,500 what you study engineering or what we 530 00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:03,840 are doing do not waste time 531 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:06,360 because you will never enjoy it there are people who 532 00:26:10,340 --> 00:26:08,090 la la what 533 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:10,350 they love 534 00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:16,710 for the car that's what they have to 535 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:20,110 do because that's where they're going to excel, that is, they have to 536 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:21,930 prove it don't 537 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:25,210 think about money don't think about the 538 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:28,180 pride of working don't think about what that 539 00:26:36,420 --> 00:26:33,190 he loves and is going to be more you are going to do the ideal he 540 00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:36,430 left in the degree and he left very well I 541 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:42,730 tell him is that if they are 542 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:44,330 interested in science and 543 00:26:47,950 --> 00:26:46,370 mathematics and they think that you can do 544 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:47,960 something of what already We have 545 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:50,210 explained it here, all of us work 546 00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:52,010 in different centers and we 547 00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:54,110 focus and specialize in 548 00:26:58,090 --> 00:26:55,720 different areas. 549 00:27:00,280 --> 00:26:58,100 I think that in the group I am the only one 550 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:00,290 who is a little off from the others 551 00:27:08,049 --> 00:27:03,410 because for my education it was not in 552 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:08,059 engineering but to bring I think my story 553 00:27:12,250 --> 00:27:09,530 is important because 554 00:27:14,350 --> 00:27:12,260 students should understand that NASA not 555 00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:14,360 only recruits in the area of ​​engineering, 556 00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:17,270 but NASA also has another area 557 00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:20,000 that is the research area where 558 00:27:24,970 --> 00:27:22,400 people with other 559 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:24,980 types of education besides the area 560 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:26,450 of ​​education are also recruited. accounting in the area of 561 00:27:32,730 --> 00:27:29,110 human resources so there is a range of 562 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:32,740 opportunities within this agency 563 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:35,090 for those who are interested in 564 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:36,890 science and math I tell you that 565 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:39,290 all of us went through all the 566 00:27:43,060 --> 00:27:41,450 math through all the science 567 00:27:45,370 --> 00:27:43,070 many were the ones 568 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:45,380 who had the good notes 569 00:27:49,930 --> 00:27:47,090 others had to work a little more 570 00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,940 but if that is really your interest that is what you 571 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:51,919 want to do all of us did it 572 00:27:55,509 --> 00:27:53,690 all of us come from a 573 00:27:58,509 --> 00:27:55,519 background that we are Hispanics from 574 00:28:01,090 --> 00:27:58,519 different areas and we have come 575 00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:01,100 this far and we are involved in projects and 576 00:28:06,490 --> 00:28:04,580 programs that They are important for the 577 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:06,500 agency, so just as we 578 00:28:10,090 --> 00:28:08,210 did, all the students 579 00:28:11,950 --> 00:28:10,100 out there can also do it with effort and 580 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:11,960 dedication. 581 00:28:18,940 --> 00:28:14,870 An emphasis that I want to give 582 00:28:20,590 --> 00:28:18,950 about your answer is that if we 583 00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:20,600 recruit more than engineers and 584 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:22,159 scientists, we don't also need 585 00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:25,250 lawyers people in business administration 586 00:28:33,509 --> 00:28:30,360 anyway in any field like any 587 00:28:36,580 --> 00:28:33,519 industry we need everything to 588 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:36,590 achieve the missions 589 00:28:43,060 --> 00:28:40,370 assigned to us vicente do you have any 590 00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:43,070 other advice for students 591 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:45,900 of course this persistence 592 00:28:52,290 --> 00:28:48,880 is very important 593 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:52,300 I sometimes remember of my life and I was 594 00:28:57,690 --> 00:28:54,250 a boy in Guayaquil playing in the 595 00:29:01,290 --> 00:28:57,700 streets with my friends and now I'm 596 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:01,300 here at NASA I mean it's something that 597 00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:03,490 sometimes I myself medium low 598 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:05,740 impressive no but all your persistence 599 00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:09,670 dedication persistence and 600 00:29:14,550 --> 00:29:11,800 to a certain extent that Do not get carried 601 00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:14,560 away by the grades or by the bad 602 00:29:19,950 --> 00:29:16,630 moments that the university gives you 603 00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:19,960 because it is in the real world 604 00:29:24,390 --> 00:29:21,700 of course, in general you have to be a good 605 00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:24,400 student for the real world what is 606 00:29:30,990 --> 00:29:28,750 worth is persistence in a project 607 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:31,000 the desire to work and as 608 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:33,370 Rafael said, the love he has for work, 609 00:29:40,259 --> 00:29:36,910 then this, as God said, if 610 00:29:43,159 --> 00:29:40,269 we achieve that we come 611 00:29:44,849 --> 00:29:43,169 from countries to certain 612 00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:44,859 underdeveloped points and we are here 613 00:29:49,489 --> 00:29:47,080 representing these countries and in 614 00:29:52,499 --> 00:29:49,499 NASA I believe that everyone can achieve it 615 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:52,509 commitment and dedication commitment and dedication 616 00:30:01,330 --> 00:29:58,850 something else that you want to add a comment at the end 617 00:30:08,509 --> 00:30:03,890 thank you for inviting me 618 00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:13,430 go ahead and now real relationships the 619 00:30:19,159 --> 00:30:17,039 first woman to the moon exhibit 2024 with 620 00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:19,169 the artemisa program and we continue for 621 00:30:21,739 --> 00:30:19,919 martín 622 00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:21,749 thank you for all that you have contributed